So it exists.... Thought you guys would like to see this!
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/07/prototype_snes_playstation_found_in_the_wild_unicorn_and_big_foot_expected_next
Spoiler
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Also, happy 5555th post :D
That's a pretty amazing piece of gaming history right there, as long as it isn't some kind of elaborate fake.
That's super cool and interesting overall.
Jesus Christ !!
Thats prototypes gotta be like worth a million dollars right now !!!
I guess its like invaluable !!! Awesome discovery !!!
I would love to see it power up and see the boot screen.. maybe there s a SNES startup animation and everything !! Holy shit ! my heart is literally racing while I type this..
- Rama
Unreal... Just unfucking believable... I'm literally speechless. Can't wait to see what's on the cartridge. I'm always dreaming and fantasizing about finding something this rare and exciting in the wild.
Cool it's like a Twin Super Famicom! I wonder if standalone units that hooks up to a Super Famicom also exists.
I found a video of it (still not hooked up though) and some better pictures (http://www.gamesradar.com/original-sonynintendo-playstation-prototype/). If that's fake someone has way too much free time (or trying to make money). The cart reads デモ用 (demo usage) and some numbers.
Hopefully this holy grail eventually find it's way to someone willing to thoroughly analyse and document the unit, cart and CD.
I'm honestly thinking about making this guy an offer. can anybody please pm me to chat about a realistic price. I'd really like to discuss this with fellow veteran collectors and gain there opinions on a realistic price point.
Hold your horses - one french dude already confessed that this glorious fake was his masterpiece.
http://pxlbbq.com/la-snes-cd-quand-nintendo-x-sony/
French dude is lying ;)
Quote from: Jay-ray on July 05, 2015, 05:34:42 am
I'm honestly thinking about making this guy an offer. can anybody please pm me to chat about a realistic price. I'd really like to discuss this with fellow veteran collectors and gain there opinions on a realistic price point.
Jay this is so celebrated I think you just need to offer what you think it's worth - my guess would be tens of thousands, I can easily see offers of $30,000 - $50,000 if this ever want to a real auction house, maybe much more. It's such an infamous story and one that the effects of are still cited regularly today, it's not something anyone could really put a finger on, and if they say they can they're overstating ability to gauge these kinds of things.
If I had loads of money like some collector's do - I'd easily be willing to spend £50K up. I don't have that kind of cash, but we all know that some people do.
For the sake of argument why don't we have a roundtable, what do you think it's worth? Essentially we're guessing 'what would someone with millions be willing to pay for it?'
Do we think that some of our other members like Ryo and Poppy might be tempted to make an offer? Do we all think this is legit, or are there doubts? Let's discuss!
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Quote from: UglyJoe on July 05, 2015, 09:17:16 am
French dude is lying ;)
Vadu Amka is female I believe (is that the "dude" referred to?), I saw her name mentioned - has she directly claimed she made it, or did someone else claim that she made it?
I did notice some questionable details, but I don't think it does her favours to fake a system like this, personally. Time will tell, if / when it's booted up I suppose.
I called fake. at the point they were with nintendo it wouldnt be labelled playstation. would you not take photos of underside.? Try to boot up etc. BEFORE telling the world. Even if really it would be a design proto that didnt work anyway.
It was called Playstation long before they made it a standalone console. Haven't you seen old pictures of the Nintendo Playstation peripheral?
It's still possible it's fake though. There are enough people with too much free time in the world, but I don't like to be pessimistic.
The pictures on record of that prototype don't match this one - what's more there are slight differences and little suspicious details, I'd say it could be fake, the more I think of it the more it makes me wonder.
Things that bother me about this "product":
The name was property of Nintendo, but not written as PlayStation. It was registered as Play Station.
There is no point of putting two proprietary AV connectors plus regular RCA's on the back.
Analog potentiometer volume knob.
Unnatural asymmetrical design (you can forgive this for a fax machine but not for a console).
If it would be made by Sony and Nintendo together it would be in Japan not in USA - all the serious research and development of both firms is carried out in Japan only (yeah right Olaf had it in his office).
Plastic yellowing is unnatural - lower front is too darn yellow, but the notorious SFC cartride backside is white.
I'll say it's fake until I haven't seen the internals or the booting.
The is the real deal.
http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/nintendo-snes-playstation-finally-uncovered.57166/
Pikkon is there a particular post in that thread that leads you to believe so? Until We see it powered up in action I don't think it can be ruled out an exquisite fake.
I really don't like conspiracy theories but back looks harvested from a PS1, top cartridge parts from a SNES and various other things don't match the picture. Yellowing also, looks inconsistent with how anti flammable plastics yellow. Not all backs of SNES cartridges go yellow, but if this was kept in a box all those years then why is the front so yellowed in an arbitrary pattern? Makes me wonder, but until I see of powered up or something concrete, I remain somewhat skeptical.
I suspect that, should this turn out to be real, Sony and/or Nintendo could claim it to be their stolen property.
A lot of SNES units have yellowed even when kept out of sunlight - I think it's actually a chemical reaction rather than the usual photodegradation. Doesn't really confirm the veracity of the thing, but some of the latest posts in the thread linked earlier show Japanese patent imagery that very closely resemble the one that was found.
Man, from a moderator's perspective, that assembler thread is soooo annoying to read. So many repeat questions / suggestions / requests / images.
Yes it is very irritating to read through all the babble, but then again Assembler is already quite irritating ta the best of times I find.
Quote from: Zycrow on July 06, 2015, 07:36:06 am
A lot of SNES units have yellowed even when kept out of sunlight - I think it's actually a chemical reaction rather than the usual photodegradation. Doesn't really confirm the veracity of the thing, but some of the latest posts in the thread linked earlier show Japanese patent imagery that very closely resemble the one that was found.
It is chemical 100% - it's just exacerbated by sunlight. Note the pattern where the controller would have been plugged in. I suppose it could have stained that way, but would need to be out in sunlight a long time (which is also possible of course, on a shelf somewhere).
Second note - the system is not for sale. The owner has already been inundated with sale requests and is getting pissed at this point apparently, just an FYI.
It was in the attics, did they ever say it was stored away from sunlight?
Anyway I'm waiting for pictures of it running. Not that that couldn't be faked too of course.
Quote from: L___E___T on July 06, 2015, 08:16:18 am
Second note - the system is not for sale. The owner has already been inundated with sale requests and is getting pissed at this point apparently, just an FYI.
That's understandable. I'm sure that for every offer of like 20 grand he receives, there are also *hundreds* of offers like "I'll give you 100 bucks, in cash, right now, bro".
Not that unsolicited offers of tens of thousands of dollars ever seem *super* legit...
Since it's maybe the only one around.. i would definitely sell it high... 40-50 k!
It works
http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/06/nintendo-playstation-is-real-and-it-works/
And here is some nice internal shots.
http://www.hkgolden.com/articles/article.aspx?id=20279&catid=33
Some updates!
So they finally was able to turn it on, and it plays NTSC games fine except that sound doesn't work. The demo cart is working and it's apparently the BIOS for the CD-unit (the cart has been dumped and also works in emulators). The emulator NO$SNS now supports the CD-unit and Nocash added the documentation into the fullsnes doc. He even made the first SFX-100 CD-homebrew (http://problemkaputt.de/magicflr.htm) (it's in the snes/bsx/nss/cdrom download).
Anyway, although the demo BIOS cart works, it can't detect the CD-unit at all for some reason. And there's still the problem that sound isn't working.
They took it to Ben Heck to see if he could repair the sound and CD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug-CyGXMabg Teardown Part 1
They open it up and checks the insides. The prototype is apparently called SFX-100. They compare it to PC Engine and Mega CD, I think they got some of the specs wrong though (they claim that PC Engine CD doesn't have Backup RAM, which it does, how else are you supposed to save in those games?). In part 2 they are going to see if they can get sound and CD working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh91IO9cV48 Teardown Part 2
Long story short: The CD seems to have been disabled by a mod on the board (maybe as part of an agreement for the person who had it before to be allowed to keep it) so they removed this mod. It made the CD-unit detectable from the BIOS, but it still couldn't spin properly. They replaced the old capacitors on the board and by doing this, both sound and the CD-drive was fixed. So now it's a fully functional Super Famicom with sound, but allthough the CD-unit can spin and eject the tray, it still can't read any discs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xkHBzvk290 Update
So they believe the CD-laser is the culprit. They found a lens that might work. To be continued...
Interesting update. Thank you!
Some improvement!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2t_NGA52Qc (SFX-100 reparation starts at 7:00)
So they got that new CD-drive and tried to replace it. To be continued...
"First PlayStation" is the PS1, the original PlayStation. This Sony/Nintendo console would then be called the PS0 then.
It's always cool to see this.
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Quote from: Shumi Nagaremono on July 06, 2015, 02:53:58 am
I suspect that, should this turn out to be real, Sony and/or Nintendo could claim it to be their stolen property.
Stolen property? That's funny.
Update!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaIfPuziJ-0
Conclusion: So they replaced a few more suspicious capacitors and at some point the CD just worked! It's not clear what made it to work but I assume it's the caps. The homebrew games Magic Floor and Super Boss Gaiden didn't work perfectly at first, but this was probably due to faulty assumptions made by the programmers when they made the game for the Super CD format. They later fixed the problems in the code and after that they played perfectly! So now the Nintendo Playstation finally plays music CDs as well as Super CD games as it should!