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Family Computer => Famicom / Disk System => Topic started by: 2A03 on August 10, 2007, 05:05:45 pm

Title: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: 2A03 on August 10, 2007, 05:05:45 pm
I'm planning to run my FDS on batteries, and I want to know how long the battery life is. I'm guessing somewhere between 5-10 hours?
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: JC on August 10, 2007, 06:55:21 pm
That's an interesting question. I've never tried batteries. I hope we get an answer to this question.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: satoshi_matrix on August 10, 2007, 07:24:22 pm
Indeed. The thing takes those giant C cells so if I was to pop those things in there I want to know how long they last too.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: kite200 on August 10, 2007, 08:22:48 pm
use the ac?
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: 2A03 on August 11, 2007, 12:22:24 am
Quote from: kite200 on August 10, 2007, 08:22:48 pm
use the ac?


I would prefer not to plug in another AC adapter or share one from another system for the FDS, which is why I asked this question.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: 133MHz on August 11, 2007, 01:17:09 am
I think the batteries are a waste of money, maybe splicing a power adapter, putting two power outputs on it (one for the Fami and one for the FDS) would be a better solution.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: manuel on August 11, 2007, 01:26:35 am
If you want to know you should just do the experiment.
And please tell us how long it works.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: Doc on August 11, 2007, 09:57:49 pm
I used my Disk System quite frequently. Like daily for five months. After that I stopped, so atleast the battery life is pretty long, considering the size. So atleast five months.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: manuel on August 12, 2007, 02:43:18 am
That's an amazingly efficient power use.
I wouldn't have expected that.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: satoshi_matrix on August 12, 2007, 09:54:03 am
holy shit, I was expecting something more on the order of 5 hours instead of 5 months.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: Doc on August 13, 2007, 08:20:38 pm
Yeah, I was initially shocked, too, and I only stopped after five months because I had to put the FDS away for awhile.

Of course, this doesn't mean that they last for five months with 12 hours a day of gameplay.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: Kreese on August 13, 2007, 10:21:31 pm
What kind of batteries does it require? And how many?
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: kite200 on August 14, 2007, 12:04:36 am
a rediculous 6 c cells
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: Bobinsky on December 29, 2008, 07:20:20 pm
I was thinking about buying a a famicom disk system with an ac adapter. the ac adapter is 20$, so i  want to know how long the batteries last on it
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: Trium Shockwave on December 30, 2008, 09:49:43 am
I would think the battery life would be pretty long. Most of the magic is in the RAM cart, which requires no power aside from what comes through the Famicom's cart slot. In fact, the RAM cart will operate without even having the FDS attached to it. The FDS drive itself should only need power when it's actively reading or writing to disk. So, you fire up your Famicom, and it loads the game into the RAM cart. You probably then need to flip to side B to get into the actual game. At that point, the FDS goes silent and uses no power until you either go into another area or level that requires it to load from disk again, or you save your game. It's a lot like how an MP3 player will cache music ahead, then shut down its hard drive to conserve power. Now, personally, I hate spending money on batteries, so I just bite the bullet and plug the FDS in. If you want to run it off battery though, I don't think it would be too often you need to replace them.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: satoshi_matrix on December 30, 2008, 11:24:34 am
You don't need to use a FDS specific ac adapter. Assuming you live in a part of the world that uses 120v AC, just buy a universal ac adapter (the kind with like twelve different plugs) with a polarity switch. I don't remember which polarity it uses, but it should say on the bottom of the unit.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: Trium Shockwave on December 30, 2008, 03:14:17 pm
It actually doesn't say on the FDS itself that I can find. That'd be annoying if you got one without its original power supply.

The output on the included adapter is 9V, 400mA, center negative
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: Bobinsky on December 30, 2008, 06:38:19 pm
1A = 1000mA, right?
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: ericj on December 30, 2008, 06:39:05 pm
Yes, sir!  ;)
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: Bobinsky on December 30, 2008, 07:09:25 pm
whats the diameter of the famicom ac adapter plug?

do they need to be exactly the same or can you use something similar?

EDIT: Removed double post.  --JC
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: 133MHz on December 30, 2008, 07:45:13 pm
FDS plug diameter is a little bigger than the Famicom one, so a Famicom adapter or a universal one would work perfectly on a FDS.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: Bobinsky on December 30, 2008, 08:31:50 pm
do you know the exact outer and inner diameter of the famicom ac adapter?
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: 133MHz on December 30, 2008, 09:23:01 pm
I'd have to get a microcaliper to measure that. I can get you an answer tomorrow or on Jan 1st if my uncle lends me his.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: nurd on December 30, 2008, 09:46:33 pm
Can you not just use batteries? :D
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: Rogles on December 31, 2008, 08:03:35 am
It takes like 6 C batteries...
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: nurd on December 31, 2008, 11:15:41 am
Yeah?

Why not do that? :P
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: SeanOrange on January 07, 2009, 03:23:01 pm
Bobinsky!  I'm sorry I wasn't able to answer your question.  I did write it down, though, and I plan to answer it in one of our upcoming Denshimail segments!

I want to experimentally test the assertation about the RAM cartridge.  I suspected when Bobinsky asked me this question that the battery was just for reading/writing the disk and sending the data to the RAM cart, but I also wondered if it was more than a datalink.  It's really as easy as unplugging it while a game is in operation, but I still want to do it to test for sure.

Knowing all this makes the batteries seem much less of an insane option (certainly more sane than taking up an entire plug or three -- since the adapter might cover one up).  Since I want to get batteries for the test, I might as well keep them in there until they run out! :O
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: Trium Shockwave on January 07, 2009, 08:47:06 pm
I actually tried that out. The game will continue to run until you reach a point where it would need to load again, then you get a Disk Set Error. I don't think the RAM cart can tell the difference between there not being a disk in the FDS, and it being disconnected. Also, because of the way things shipped, I actually got my RAM cart a day or two before the FDS itself. For curiosity's sake, I stuck the RAM cart in my Famicom and it did the "Please Set Disk Card" demo screen just as if the FDS was present and waiting for a disk.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: 133MHz on January 07, 2009, 08:58:09 pm
Correct, the RAM cart itself runs off the +5 volts from the Famicom's cart connector.
The batteries are used to move the drive motor and nothing else.

Since the disk drive is used in short bursts, the batteries should last a pretty long time.
Title: Re: Famicom Disk System Battery Life
Post by: manuel on January 08, 2009, 03:45:58 am
Yay, another mystery solved!  :D

So... would it be plain impossible to move the drive motor with the power from the cart connector?