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Family Computer => Famicom / Disk System => Topic started by: Jabra on May 10, 2008, 08:29:49 am

Title: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: Jabra on May 10, 2008, 08:29:49 am
If a famicom cart has the name of the company on it's label, does that mean that it is original and not pirate ?

What about this cart ?

  http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p319/hua2002/DSC07571.jpg
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: NintendoKing on May 10, 2008, 10:04:24 am
Its a pirate, sadly. Super Mario Bros 2, wasnt released on a cart; only disk. But Super Mario USA is on a cart, and its what americans call Super Mario Bros 2.
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: manuel on May 10, 2008, 11:50:52 am
That's one damn good looking pirate.
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: FamicomFreak on May 10, 2008, 11:54:06 am
can I have that pirate?
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: KEVMAN569 on May 10, 2008, 11:58:21 am
Thats the first pirate I've seen with a product code on it.  Very nice find!
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: Jabra on May 10, 2008, 12:05:05 pm
Quote from: FamicomFreak on May 10, 2008, 11:54:06 am
can I have that pirate?


here it is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320248013857

It is 60$ including shipping !!!
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: FamicomFreak on May 10, 2008, 12:08:22 pm
very tempting...
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: KEVMAN569 on May 10, 2008, 12:08:32 pm
Quote from: Jabra on May 10, 2008, 12:05:05 pm
Quote from: FamicomFreak on May 10, 2008, 11:54:06 am
can I have that pirate?


here it is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320248013857

It is 60$ including shipping !!!


The funny thing is I could definetly get that, but I hate spending money.

Hopefully the multicart I just got will have some interesting stuff.
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: michaelthegreat on May 11, 2008, 08:26:31 pm
What's up with all this stuff from thailand? Did they just discover ebay?
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: Deadly-D on May 11, 2008, 10:57:28 pm
Quote from: michaelthegreat on May 11, 2008, 08:26:31 pm
What's up with all this stuff from thailand? Did they just discover ebay?


I don't know but I ordered splatter house for my Famicom from Thailand and I've been waiting 36 days now for it. Does anyone know if this is normal?
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: JC on May 11, 2008, 11:04:17 pm
Depends on how they shipped it. I'd be worried if it went more than 45 days. I think I had one package that took about a month and a half coming from Europe.
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: NintendoKing on May 12, 2008, 06:09:57 am
Quote from: Deadly-D on May 11, 2008, 10:57:28 pm
Quote from: michaelthegreat on May 11, 2008, 08:26:31 pm
What's up with all this stuff from thailand? Did they just discover ebay?


I don't know but I ordered splatter house for my Famicom from Thailand and I've been waiting 36 days now for it. Does anyone know if this is normal?

Did they offer better shipping? Always take the highest priced shipping when getting something overseas.
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: manuel on May 12, 2008, 08:41:01 am
Surface mail usually takes between 6-8 weeks I heard. So don't worry... yet. ;)
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: MaxXimus on May 12, 2008, 11:11:08 am
Mario Bros 2j? Why would you wanna spend 60$ on that. :P

I'll sell mine for half the price, and I'm sure the quality on mine is much better and I can say for sure it isn't a glob top. :P
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: FamicomFreak on May 12, 2008, 11:24:19 am
Quote from: MaxXimus on May 12, 2008, 11:11:08 am
Mario Bros 2j? Why would you wanna spend 60$ on that. :P

I'll sell mine for half the price, and I'm sure the quality on mine is much better and I can say for sure it isn't a glob top. :P


Give me cart for half your half of the price?  ;)
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: MaxXimus on May 12, 2008, 02:41:00 pm
Hmm... Doubtful, haha. :P

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/MitchellV/Collection/IMG0133A.jpg)

Here is a picture of it beside SMB3 for size comparison.
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: KEVMAN569 on May 12, 2008, 05:40:34 pm
Looks like they stuffed the entire disk drive in that cart.  Where did you find that?
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: 133MHz on May 12, 2008, 05:45:13 pm
The holes look like they were provided for a dip-switch multicart.
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: FamicomFreak on May 12, 2008, 05:45:57 pm
Give me that cart MAX!
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: KEVMAN569 on May 12, 2008, 05:56:26 pm
Very unique cart MaxXimus.  I'd be interested to see what's on the inside of the cart and why it's so big.
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: NintendoKing on May 12, 2008, 05:57:00 pm
Quote from: MaxXimus on May 12, 2008, 02:41:00 pm
Hmm... Doubtful, haha. :P

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/MitchellV/Collection/IMG0133A.jpg)

Here is a picture of it beside SMB3 for size comparison.

Thats green cart could be used to convert a NES game to work on Famicom.
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: 133MHz on May 12, 2008, 05:59:31 pm
Quote from: KEVMAN569 on May 12, 2008, 05:56:26 pm
Very unique cart MaxXimus.  I'd be interested to see what's on the inside of the cart and why it's so big.


It must be full of CMOS/TTL logic chips, and lots of diode logic like all pirate SMB2j carts. Some of these chips recreate the FDS interrupt signal needed for the game to work properly. Also they contain a stripped down version of the FDS BIOS burnt on an 8K EPROM, besides normal PRG and CHR EPROMs.
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: MaxXimus on May 12, 2008, 06:07:49 pm
There are 4 screws on the back side of the cart to open it. I'll take it apart some time and show the innards. It is a huge board with a bunch of chips attached all over the place. It's a good sturdy cartridge too. I would even go as far as to say it's better quality than an original.
Title: Re: Do Pirate Labels Include Company Names?
Post by: JC on August 25, 2008, 01:45:35 pm
Just wanted to note that, yes, pirate carts can very accurately copy/replicate official labels and sometimes even include the original product IDs. I came across a cart the other day that even replicated the Taito plastic case, only instead of the plastic case reading "Taito" it read "Toito." :D