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Family Computer => Buy / Sell / Trade => Topic started by: jackhandy566 on October 13, 2010, 03:59:01 pm

Title: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: jackhandy566 on October 13, 2010, 03:59:01 pm
Just got a few more in.  Contact me via PM.  Ships with in 48 hours of cleared payments.


(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/3615/img0795g.jpg) (http://img843.imageshack.us/i/img0795g.jpg/)


$45 per unit Complete in Box (CIB), New but expected light defects in cosmetic condition only. Tested / working fine correct labels. Manuals are included. 9 / 10 condition.
$5 - small flat rate box priority shipping w tracking if State side, price subject to change for International shipping. Paypal payments only.

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more coming in soon...
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: Bramsworth on October 22, 2010, 11:53:20 pm
bam

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=2910087286&ref=&ali_trackid=2:mm_14507416_2297358_8935934,0:120235825_1_1396315324

Quotedont use that site, i looked it over though. i got a person who i talk to daily n not hav to deal w through some auction site.


Yeah, and they get their same pictures from Taobao. You're TOTALLY not using a Taobao agent. Yep  ::)

I wouldn't make such a fuss of this if you didn't come into a topic for something I've gone through enough trouble trying to find, claiming you'll contact your "connections", which you only developed after I gave you a link to Taobao when you first got to this site. I've dealed with enough shit.
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: jackhandy566 on October 23, 2010, 06:26:55 pm
well u hav no proof i am using that site or ever have. other then u telling me of it at one time a few months ago, i clickd the link n never looked back, as u stated u need to know someone who can use the site. which i do not.  i can assure u that i have not used, contacted, referenced, registered, or contacted anyone who has used that site.  my connection is direct from the manufacture or close ties to that. anyway, they don't use any of these sites a lot of gamers go to, or forums of any sort. i can get hundreds or pirates / chinese originals.

i dont speak chinese or japense. or even know how to navigate the site. but thanks for showing me a link. as it doesn't do anything for me. your assuming things out of the air.
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: Bramsworth on October 23, 2010, 06:59:51 pm
I like how you completely evade the fact the picture you've got comes directly from a Taobao auction I linked to. Even the filenames are an exact match.

And I specifically linked you to a site that buys stuff from Taobao for you when I showed you the site. Or did you forget that  ::) You came here completely clueless on where to look, now you magically have a source that has close ties to a manufacturer? And you know no Chinese or anything yet obtained such a source? Somehow, I doubt it. Plus everything you offer is available on Taobao. And need I say again, you're using a picture taken specifically from Taobao  :D

You're just a bit too obvious. Nice try though.
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: Trenton_net on October 24, 2010, 11:41:26 am
I think it's pretty clear your just using an agent.

1. Your image of 太空幻想 is binary equal to that of the sellers. Not just similar, but binary equal. (I mean at least scan your own images, or take the one from the manufactures website!).
2. Your picture contains the same watermarks over the image (Weak!).
3. Your prices don't reflect anything that would indicate an inside source or supplier. I mean, it's not like your selling Super Famicom's, Famiclone keyboards, or something with a lot of weight. It's just < 5 game cartridges.

Given the other "miracle" finds you've been posting, I think Bramsworth paints a pretty clear picture. You've obviously just found an agent for Taobao and imported a few cartridges from random sellers to test things out. Once you've tested that your agent was legit, you started trawling for more items with the hope of selling them. Except the rub is, you can't afford the premium shipping fees and agent costs that your inuring so you've resorted to using actual seller pictures to see if the community would buy them first before you invest with an agent. If you do end up selling these games, I have a funny feeling that if I contacted "chenlieshen" via QQ that they would say they just got contacted by an agent to purchase.

Anyway, I wouldn't really care about the matter to be honest as people have the right to choose who they want to buy from. In fact, people know that I actually withhold stock of items which other members are currently selling so I won't destroy their market before they make up their costs and a little profit. But I really can't stand dishonesty.

And for the record,  if any large amount of people do want games like FF7 to come back in season, I'll happily flood the forum with copies for $19 each or lower. Sure, it wouldn't be very nice for other sellers, or collectors who want to keep things in limited supply, but it would be very interesting indeed to see how long jackhandy566 can keep up with his "inside" contacts.

Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: Bramsworth on October 24, 2010, 03:40:08 pm
Yes, thank you. I'm not usually capable of writing as thought out a post as yours heh.

He'll probably crawl into obscurity now. I know it's anyone's choice who they buy from, but I came across this once before myself on another forum, someone did the exact same thing posting an exact picture from Taobao of FF7(case in point: http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php/topic,11305.0.html) and saying they'll get them from their sources for $60 each. Seems Taobao is everybody's little secret =p I remember paying up to $40 for a couple of these things before I found Taobao, now I know that if you get the right agent you can get these things for like a few bucks. It's mostly the EMS shipping that escalates the price, but at $50 a piece you'll be paying much more than any Taobao agent.

Considering this is something anyone can do themselves for much cheaper through the exact same methods he's using, it should be called to attention. Though of course to be fair to you Trenton, in the long run of things getting lots of stuff from you is more cheaper since as I said, the shipping from China usually escalates the price too much.

So which site is it, jack? buyfromtaobao.com? I remember recommending them when I first messaged you. Maybe taobaonow.com? God those people take an eternity and also waaay overcharge in general.

Oh yeah and jack? Next time someone makes a WTB thread for an item they've clearly gone through enough trouble to find(else I wouldn't be offering $150 freakin dollars), don't take over the post hawking off your warez like a salesman, It's rude and pissed me off to the extreme.
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: jackhandy566 on October 24, 2010, 03:57:15 pm
whatever. if you were on my computer you would see i've only visited the site twice EVER. when he showed me a link the first time(months ago). and the second link in this thread (after the fact to "try" and prove a assumption on there behave).

if i buy a pack of Bicycle playing cards that had say a golden design on them that was considered limited and they bought it at Store A in Texas.  not much info to the press how limited it was and it's release.  I buy it from Store B, C, D, etc.  did I take a flight all the way to Texas just to find that same pack found at a store elsewhere?

or assuming that u got a limited ed say of the new Halo Reach was from a pre-order. when it's a limited release for launch n it sells out when it sells out. n u can get it still at a few stores. after it's initial release.

this is really a lost cause as the horse was dead years ago.  There is no proof, Do you know how many websites are on the internet? How many people there are in this world? beyond this forum. I didn't state that image below was mine. saying i could get doesn't mean it's in my hand.
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: nintendodork on October 24, 2010, 04:49:57 pm
So, then where did you get that picture that you deleted?
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: jackhandy566 on October 24, 2010, 04:51:36 pm
google search.
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: Bramsworth on October 24, 2010, 06:15:34 pm
If it really came from a Google search, why delete it?

That doesn't make much sense, if you know no Chinese, how'd you get a picture from a Chinese site? If you used Google and you don't know Chinese...what could you have typed in to get a picture from a Chinese site that uses no English at all in the auction description or anything? Final Fantasy Famicom? That isn't going to be bringing up an auction totally in Chinese, is it?

You're not a good liar. As you might say, you play your "cards" wrong.  :D Fun fact: ditching the evidence doesn't put you in the best of light. Neither does an excuse that doesn't add up.
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: Trenton_net on October 24, 2010, 06:51:10 pm
I hate to brake it to you jack, but if you Google search for the filename "t1fkdaxlxbxxb81ez033604.jpg" or even the more general "太空幻想" nothing comes up. Not even 1 hit from the Google cache. Did Google suddenly unindex your image?

Anyway, regardless if you deny it or not, it's quite obvious where your product comes from. Everyone wants to make a little money on the side and what you ask for (and what people pay for) is totally up to you. You won't see me going to Bramsworth's thread, or him going into my threads saying what your selling is pricey. Mainly because compared to street prices we know it is! Everyone is entitled to make a little pocket money for their work. But when you start being dishonest (especially bad for new users who don't know any better), then of course your going to be called out on it.

But as to the subject of agents in general, it all comes down to price vs convenience. If your too lazy to learn the language, setup an account, or do any of the legwork, sure agents can help you. But you'll pay for it just like anything else. You won't get street prices, but you certainly won't pay jackhandy566 prices.

For those interested, I did try out agents a long while ago to experience if it was really worth it or not. My thoughts of them were rather poor. The biggest reason is because they are (in general) not very honest. Every time I would place an order, I would contact the sellers in person over QQ or the websites messaging system to confirm the prices, how much shipping would be, and what kind of free gifts and discounts I could get for an order. Each time, the agent would over-quote shipping, not apply the right per-unit discount, or omit the free items or gifts the seller would throw in for my business. When confronted with these omissions the agents would say "No, your wrong" and that the prices they were charging were accurate. They would continuously stick to this story until I showed them screenshots and chat logs of myself with the actual sellers (which were more than happy to provide me with invoices and actual shipping slips proving they never sold to the agent at those prices). Needless to say, they were quick to go "Our mistake. There was an order mix up which is why we quoted wrong" once they were given this evidence. In fact, I've caught agents trying to pull these shenanigans so many times that they ether stop responding to me (They don't make as much money off of me), or they mark my account as "chinese/local" (or whatever they do) so they know just to fill the orders exactly as instructed because it will be independently verified anyway and just cause management more headaches if it is wrong or overcharged. As you can expect, I didn't bother with agents after those little experiments.


Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: jackhandy566 on October 24, 2010, 07:07:24 pm
if i never got my image from there how would i know what the file name would be before hand? google image search, you type in a word or phrase and it searches. i don't think it's more simple then that. so u didn't didn't prove where i got the image. the both of u have theories.

marketing has always been copy n repeat. so once that image that i put up, i got from doing a search on non asian website. originally where did it come from? where is the original source? did u go into there servers n find where they host the site / images? so if that image is on another ten websites or more. did u go n find those in your search for this?

i dont use an agent but im sorry u had to go thru that ordeal. shipping is shipping price w tracking / insurance. no qoutes, no bull.
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: Bramsworth on October 25, 2010, 04:39:04 am
So what's this magic term you typed into Google that brought up that picture then? With each new thing raised against your defenses, you just evade  ::)

Tell us. What's that, don't have an answer? Thought so.
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: son_ov_hades on October 25, 2010, 07:36:52 am
I need some popcorn, this is entertaining.  ;D
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: MS-DOS4 on October 25, 2010, 07:48:54 am
Someone needs to tell us what's going on here... The first couple of posts look like they've been snipped of their original content, making this debacle confusing.
Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: macmoose on October 25, 2010, 11:53:39 am
Basically jackhandy566 has been trying to sell these Chinese Famicom games at ridiculous prices, all the while trying to justify it by saying that he has an "inside" source for them in China. But as other users pointed out, he's just using some 3rd party proxy bid service to do it and really has no inside source. That is, he's intentionally misleading people (probably newbies) into thinking he's got some super rare source, when he's really just doing what anyone else could do for free.

The post above were all edited out because he got his hand caught in the cookie jar. The veterans on the forum found the exact Chinese website images he was stealing to advertise his games with using his 3rd party proxy bid service.

I guess the point is, if you wanna sell expensive games OK, but don't go saying you got an inside "connection" and shit. Be straight up and say you got it from a proxy bid service and stop misleading and ripping off newbs.

But whatever. There's no point in waisting your time. If I wanna mess with proxies I could do it myself. No need to waste my money with this guy. But why bother with all the headaches? Other people like
MWK, Trenton, etc, sell the same stuff at really good prices with no risk or headaches of being scammed out of my money. And at much cheaper prices than any proxy reseller could do.

Title: Re: FF7 Advent Children Fami Chinese Orig 4 Sale / Interest in FF4 CIB?
Post by: nintendodork on October 27, 2010, 08:54:46 pm
Quote from: son_ov_hades on October 25, 2010, 07:36:52 am
I need some popcorn, this is entertaining.  ;D
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