Famicom on an american TV in Tokyo

Started by new123, October 28, 2015, 11:04:20 pm

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new123

Hey guys!

I bought a famicom here in Tokyo as a bday gift. Yesterday, we've tried all day to hook it up to the TV, but it just won't work.

Here are the details (I'll try to explain as best as I can, but english is not my mother tongue, so if there are any questions, please ask me):

First we tried to hook it up with the RF adapter (not the original one, I bought a universal adapter), but the TV doesn't have any channels set (to get to channel 95 or 96), and apparently since there is no american cable available here, the TV won't find any channels when we started auto scan.

Then we tried the japanese cable and hooked it up with the receiver, but either that doesn't work at all, or we would have to scan for the right channel, but the menu is too confusing. :D

We ended up buying an old jap VCR and connected it with a composite cable (red/yellow/green) to the TV, and tried the channels on the VCR. So, we somehow found the information that you cannot connect a composite cable to a component tv...

Well, long story short, I have no idea what's the problem and how we can fix that. (Apart from looking for a very old japanese TV)

Any ideas?

Pikkon

Well if you av mod the famicom that would solve your problems or a av famicom would be ideal but if your in japan than a japanese tv would be the best to get.

HVC-Man

Quote from: new123 on October 28, 2015, 11:04:20 pm
So, we somehow found the information that you cannot connect a composite cable to a component tv...


Get an older TV or pick up an RGBNES board with component add-on from here:

http://etim.net.au/shop/shop.php?crn=203

Yes, it'd require some decent soldering skills, but it's worth it.

chowder

Quote from: HVC-Man on October 29, 2015, 12:02:29 pm
Get an older TV or pick up an RGBNES board with component add-on from here:

http://etim.net.au/shop/shop.php?crn=203

Yes, it'd require some decent soldering skills, but it's worth it.


For that price, I wouldn't say it's worth it.  I don't understand this obsession with extracting perfect video from consoles from the 80s.  It's not nostalgia, because we all used RF back then.  Composite is plenty good enough IMO :)

daskrabs

1. If you use an NES RF adapter, channel 95 or 96 might work if you leave the system on while your TV is auto-scanning. Make sure you have it set to scan ANALOG (NTSC) channels in addition to digital (ATSC).

2. Assuming you have no dedicated composite input: Look at your TV's green component input. If it's half yellow as well, you can use a composite device on that input. Return the Famicom to wherever you got it and see if they have an AV Famicom instead. That has composite output and much better video/audio quality.

Quote from: new123 on October 28, 2015, 11:04:20 pm
Hey guys!

I bought a famicom here in Tokyo as a bday gift. Yesterday, we've tried all day to hook it up to the TV, but it just won't work.

Here are the details (I'll try to explain as best as I can, but english is not my mother tongue, so if there are any questions, please ask me):

First we tried to hook it up with the RF adapter (not the original one, I bought a universal adapter), but the TV doesn't have any channels set (to get to channel 95 or 96), and apparently since there is no american cable available here, the TV won't find any channels when we started auto scan.

Then we tried the japanese cable and hooked it up with the receiver, but either that doesn't work at all, or we would have to scan for the right channel, but the menu is too confusing. :D

We ended up buying an old jap VCR and connected it with a composite cable (red/yellow/green) to the TV, and tried the channels on the VCR. So, we somehow found the information that you cannot connect a composite cable to a component tv...

Well, long story short, I have no idea what's the problem and how we can fix that. (Apart from looking for a very old japanese TV)

Any ideas?

P

Or AV-mod it. I prefer it above RGB-modding anyway.

HVC-Man

Quote from: chowder on October 29, 2015, 12:08:34 pm
For that price, I wouldn't say it's worth it.  I don't understand this obsession with extracting perfect video from consoles from the 80s.  It's not nostalgia, because we all used RF back then.  Composite is plenty good enough IMO :)



He said his TV doesn't support composite (or RF channel 95/96 apparently). That means there's two options, an older TV or a component mod for his Famicom, which requires the NESRGB board. He may find the NESRGB easier than an older TV.

Pikkon

Only thing with the component mod is the tv would have to support 240p component and that's a hit or miss on hdtv's.

I would grab a crt,a KV-25DA65 would be nice as it does composite,s-video,d-terminal and rgb.

P

Quote from: HVC-Man on October 29, 2015, 03:18:02 pm
Quote from: chowder on October 29, 2015, 12:08:34 pm
For that price, I wouldn't say it's worth it.  I don't understand this obsession with extracting perfect video from consoles from the 80s.  It's not nostalgia, because we all used RF back then.  Composite is plenty good enough IMO :)



He said his TV doesn't support composite

But is there such a thing? Probably it has composite but it needs some kind of adapter.

HVC-Man

For American HDTVs nowadays, no composite is becoming a thing.

chowder

Quote from: HVC-Man on October 29, 2015, 03:18:02 pm
Quote from: chowder on October 29, 2015, 12:08:34 pm
For that price, I wouldn't say it's worth it.  I don't understand this obsession with extracting perfect video from consoles from the 80s.  It's not nostalgia, because we all used RF back then.  Composite is plenty good enough IMO :)



He said his TV doesn't support composite (or RF channel 95/96 apparently). That means there's two options, an older TV or a component mod for his Famicom, which requires the NESRGB board. He may find the NESRGB easier than an older TV.


Well, he didn't really, it wasn't really very clear:

"We ended up buying an old jap VCR and connected it with a composite cable (red/yellow/green) to the TV, and tried the channels on the VCR. So, we somehow found the information that you cannot connect a composite cable to a component tv..."

Maybe the OP can clarify :)

P

Quote from: HVC-Man on October 29, 2015, 06:31:07 pm
For American HDTVs nowadays, no composite is becoming a thing.

That's such a stupid trend. :(