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Is this real or fake?

Started by famalot, March 15, 2009, 03:15:54 pm

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famalot

Hi there, I bought a SFC cart earlier today which has both Knights of the Round and World Soccer 94 Road to Glory on it.  I couldn't find it on eBay or anywhere else I looked so I was wondering if it is an actual SFC release or some kind of homebrew.  Anybody know?  Any ideas on what the price of it would be (it is the cartridge only)?

Thanks!

Rogles

I'm pretty sure it's a pirate. Do you have pictures?
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famalot

Yes I do but how would I upload them?   Sorry for the noob question. 

nintendodork

Upload them to tinypic,  photobucket, or something like that
Get the URL and put it in between [img][/img]
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famalot


Ok, thanks.  My camera's not the best but here are a couple of the front and one of the back:






Paul-FC


Rob64

Now you're playing with Power

Trium Shockwave

I was under the impression there weren't any SFC/SNES pirates due to the lockout chip, with the exception of that Noah's Ark sprite hack of Wolfenstein 3D. And that you had to piggyback a legitimate cart onto so it could use the lockout chip. How'd this one come about?

Rob64

Good question. Now what if (and it's a big what if) the concept that was used for Super Noah's Ark 3D was actually inside the cart.... get the idea? Kinda like that adapter some nes carts had that switched the famicom board to a new nes board.

Other than that idea that is probably not correct, I am not sure.
Now you're playing with Power

133MHz

The SNES lockout chip has been cloned by pirates at least since the early-mid 90s.
I played the hell out of my SNES back then and a lot of SNES pirate carts passed through my hands, most of them multicarts with reset-based logic or really bland menu screens, and with a low quantity of games (10 or 15 at most), but good quality (I remember seeing a multicart with Super Mario All-Stars once). Also single game pirate carts with popular titles were really common, like Donkey Kong Country, International Superstar Soccer and Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3. Too bad that pirates didn't bother to add battery-backed SRAM to the games that used it, that means no progress saving.

The carts with full size ROM chips used CIC clones disguised as 7400 series logic chips, probably to thwart casual observers. In fact that started an urban legend which stated that the SNES lockout chip was only a common 74LS139 or something like that. Of course, it's not true. Carts with gloptops had their CIC clone built in one of the gloptops.

Nowadays good SNES pirate carts are rare and hard to find. I still stumble across some of them when flea-market hunting.

Trium Shockwave

What about original, unlicensed games? Besides that awful Noah's Ark thing, were there any others?

Blue Protoman

Nope.  Zero.  That was the only unlicensed, non-pirate SNES game.  If you want unlicensed games, check out the NES.  It's got a shitload.

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