Disk System Number of Sides?

[dukbrand]

Is there a list anywhere that tells how many sides each game takes up?
Like Metroid is two sides but Mario is one.

[tpm1999]

Any Game that saves Data is 2 sides (1 side game...1 side saved Data).

Super Mario Brothers 1 and 2 are 1 sided

Metroid, Kid Icarus, Zelda 1 and 2, etc. are 2 sided.

Sorry...dont know where to find a list.

[fredJ]

Would be nice also to know the games that need more than one disk.

Exciting Soccer asked for "Side A of Disc 2" but I can't find that there are two disks of this game.

Shin Onigashima 2 also needs the first Shin Onigashima to start, it seems. I can't actually tell but there is some Japanese text if you start it.

I can answer your question by saying that most games are 2 sides.
Some games that are one sides (and therefore don't save) as Golf, Tennis, Super Mario Bros, SMB 2, Volleyball, Zanac, Tag Team Pro Wrestling (name?) and Bomberman.

[MasterDisk]

Yes, there are games that needed 2 disks (the 4 sides) to be played.

[P]

Note that there are also games that may save even if there is only one side like Super Mario Bros 2(j) that saves the number of times you have beaten it and shows it as stars on the title screen.

I heard games like Shin Onigashima and Famicom Tanteiclub had their volumes released separately. You can tell which volume it is on the code on the insert if you have it. For example Famicom Tanteiclub 1 have FMC-TC1 written on first volume and FMC-TC2 on the second one. You can also look for the Chinese characters: 前編 (former volume) and 後編 (latter volume).

[fredJ]

Yes that's useful advice.

Wikipedia also answered my question. You can't play the second disk of Shin Onigashima without the first. But you should be able to play the first disk by itself (it was released before the second).

You can play the first disk of Tantei Club by itself too, but you can only get halfway through the game. I assume Tantei Club Part II works the same way, since the disks were released separately.

And also from Wikipedia about another game: Time Twist was sold across two separate discs released on the same day, and completion of the first disc is required to activate the second.

Edit: Also, Ice Hockey (another Nintendo game) only uses one side.

[Xious]

This should answer your questions...

If anybody has corrections or additions, feel free to comment: I removed the prices and values from the list before uploading it, but I left the rarity values intact. I think I have a more recent version of my FDS rarity list , but this is the one I had on hand... .

[fredJ]

Great contribution again, Xious. I think I will give that link to a friend who collects FDS.

[Xious]

That's an excerpt from my FC games rarities and prices list, which I've been working on for Jerry Griner. There are still few missing elements, and I recall translating some of those 'semi-key' entries that have no listed name; else they lost their position during a sort function.

That list is also copyrighted material, so publishing it elsewhere is not permitted, just so we're clear on that (it's going into a printed book, for which I am merely a partial contributor).

For extra points', 'Galaxian' is the smallest FDS title, taking only a tiny fraction of one side. In fact, 'Galaxian' and 'Galaga' could easily fit on one side of a single disk card, but they were never released that way.I suppose a creative person could make a combo-disk if they wanted to build an FDS menu loader.

I may eventually add game size information and other details (Extra Sound: Yes, No, Partial / Microphone Needed: Yes, No / etc.) for FC entries, but I'm so behind in everything else that this has very-low priority. You should also note that a Rarity-2.0 FDS game is worth more than a Rarity-2.0 cartridge title. 'Golf' is seemingly the most common FDS release,and 'Tanigawa Kōji no Shōgi Shinan II' ('Tanigawa Kouji's Shougi Lessons Part II:Extra Lessons') part No. PNF-SH2, is the rarest; in fact, it's the rarest released game for the FC NES libraries (all locales combined), beating the NTSC 'Stadium Events' as the rarest title for the system, and as rare as the grey NWC cartridge,possibly more-so, hence the rarity value of 10.5,  which simply means 'non-prototype; non-prize, rarity above 10).

[fredJ]

Yes of course it is your copyright.

Is the rarity a subjective measure, or do you have actual release numbers?

Do you make a difference between "official" releases and Disk Writer games which occur very frequently, such as Zelda No Densetsu?

[Xious]

Rarity is based objectively, as normal, from years of tracking availability, as well as lists from dealers and other collectors internationally. There are some rarity lists in Japan for this stuff, but they.re hard to get in your possession.

The actual release numbers, especially for unlicensed and DW games is unknown. NCL may have the numbers for boxed product, but even that is problematic, as there is also the question of survivability: How may remain from the original batch, and how many were over-written at DW stations? The only titles with known release numbers are the prize cards, as noted.

I will eventually get around to adding rarity information on the DW release versions that also had a boxed release, but this can be tricky. When there is a known label variation, I can list that separately, but I need to describe and have a photo of the label. Mainly, any entries for DW games will be listed for 'complete' games with manual, as most of them are identical to the normal labels, and only the manual differs. I will also have to note entries for DW variations, including photocopy manual (old stock) and white label with normal-or-photocopy manual or without manual.

Obviously, a white label game is easy to counterfeit, so having an original manual makes it about the same value as a normal label version, but this is speculative and up to the collector in question.

As to titles such as 'Tanigawa Kōji no Shōgi Shinan II', the number of copies known to exist, complete or otherwise is under 5, of which I am fortunate enough to own one. It isn't for sale, but one is available at a game boutique in Japan, with a price-tag reflecting it's obscene scarcity. You can actually buy a NWC cart for less.