FDS suddenly err 22 on all games

[YoshiFan501]

So i was using my FDS today with some new games i got for christmas, and i wanted to play a game i had that was spotty on the reading. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. it erred out at 22, and it usually makes a ton of clicky noises when it errors, but it didnt. so i put in another game that never errs out, and that one got 22 as well. and did all of my games. the belt is fine. the magnetic head looks good (still had the red glue) and and the spindle is positioned correctly, and the speed is good. i dont know what the problem is. any advice?

[chowder]

Try cleaning the read head with isopropyl alcohol and a cotton swab.

[YoshiFan501]

did. nothing changed

[HVC-Man]

The drive timing probably slipped out of alignment. This guide is pretty good.

http://milkandtang.com/blog/2010/03/21/fixing-a-famicom-disk-system/

Keep in mind that the FDS has only one motor to run both the head reader and the disk spinner. If the timing isn't perfect, the FDS can start too early or too late to read the disk properly, causing disk read errors like 22 and 27.

[zmaster18]

Looks like the only way to fix it is to open it up, take apart the drive assembly and put it back together perfectly aligned. If you've done FDS repair before, it's not too bad. Just takes lots of patience.

[YoshiFan501]

ive opened it up, and everything looks good, but i feel like i broke it more trying to eyeball everything. plus i dont have a calliper or hex screw.

[zmaster18]

ive opened it up, and everything looks good, but i feel like i broke it more trying to eyeball everything. plus i dont have a calliper or hex screw.

Whenever I calibrate any FDS console, I never even touch the hex screw on the spindle itself or the screw that adjusts the head. I even bought a calliper just for FDS repair and never used it once. You can realign the Disk System without those steps. The more steps you do, the harder it is on yourself. Also, sometimes it's just the motor speed that needs to be adjusted.

[YoshiFan501]

Then I probably messed my FDS up more cause I touched both.. The more still had a sticker over the amusement screw. I don't know what speed to put it at either
Post Merge: January 02, 2016, 09:06:54 pm

ive opened it up, and everything looks good, but i feel like i broke it more trying to eyeball everything. plus i dont have a calliper or hex screw.

Whenever I calibrate any FDS console, I never even touch the hex screw on the spindle itself or the screw that adjusts the head. I even bought a calliper just for FDS repair and never used it once. You can realign the Disk System without those steps. The more steps you do, the harder it is on yourself. Also, sometimes it's just the motor speed that needs to be adjusted.

im probably going to have to buy a new head
Post Merge: January 04, 2016, 07:50:49 pm
I ordered a new FDS after trying many times and failing. thanks for the help

[zmaster18]

That's FDS repair for you - lots of frustration. I believe the FDS may be one of the most difficult consoles to repair. At least you can probably sell your broken one if you don't need it anymore.

[Raverrevolution]

You should have just kept the broken parts for nostalgia and ordered yourself an FDSStick (http://3dscapture.com/fdsstick/).  This thing is a godsend for FDS preservation.  The only thing I use my actual disk drive for is to test disks to see if they work otherwise it sits.

[YoshiFan501]

That's FDS repair for you - lots of frustration. I believe the FDS may be one of the most difficult consoles to repair. At least you can probably sell your broken one if you don't need it anymore.

yeah. get some money back. someone should make a analogue NT FDS and make it with better parts! 
Post Merge: January 05, 2016, 10:20:10 am

You should have just kept the broken parts for nostalgia and ordered yourself an FDSStick (http://3dscapture.com/fdsstick/).  This thing is a godsend for FDS preservation.  The only thing I use my actual disk drive for is to test disks to see if they work otherwise it sits.

Theres the FDSStick and the FDSemu. which one...

[Raverrevolution]

Theres the FDSStick and the FDSemu. which one...

Heh, I just read about that FDSemu earlier, after I wrote my reply.  I'd say both of them look the same.  I kind of wish I never bought the FDSStick early, because now that and the other have a ton more room to store games.  Double unfair!!   

[muckyfingers]

Theres the FDSStick and the FDSemu. which one...

Heh, I just read about that FDSemu earlier, after I wrote my reply.  I'd say both of them look the same.  I kind of wish I never bought the FDSStick early, because now that and the other have a ton more room to store games.  Double unfair!!   

You can send it back to loopy and have him upgrade it, I think he charges $10.  Or if you are handy with a soldering iron and tiny parts you can do it yourself, just message him for details.

[Raverrevolution]

No way!!  That's awesome if I could do that.  Emailing him now!!

Update: Ah man, Loopy is awesome.  Going to upgrade it myself.

[HVC-Man]

That's FDS repair for you - lots of frustration. I believe the FDS may be one of the most difficult consoles to repair. At least you can probably sell your broken one if you don't need it anymore.

Strange, I've fixed four completely random FDS drives and they function perfectly. The last one needed a spindle adjustment, still worked fine afterwords.

This guide is my usual step 1, often it's all that's needed for an FDS that's never been tampered with inside.



If the FDS gets occasional read errors, a spindle adjustment may be necessary.

http://milkandtang.com/blog/2010/03/21/fixing-a-famicom-disk-system/


   1 Remove the FDS drive from the system, and disassemble the following:
        Front faceplate and drive door
        Bottom Plate
2   Look inside the drive from the front (where the drive door was), and spin the spindle (from the gear at the bottom of the drive) until the small allen screw faces you.
  3  Loosen the screw, and keep the allen key in the screw to hold the spindle still.
  4  Spin the drive pulley clockwise until you hear a small click (clockwise should be observed by looking at the bottom of the drive. The spindle (if you were looking straight down at the top, would be moving counter-clockwise).
  5  Once you hear the small click, spin one quarter turn clockwise, and tighten down the spindle (allen screw).

When fixing an FDS drive, you need to remember that messing with the motor speed and timing often fixes nothing and makes repair even more difficult. The FDS floppy drive has one motor that controls both the read head and the disk spindle, all you have to do is align the drive so that it begins and ends at the correct parts of the disk.