£500 paypal ready 4 JY 45 in 1 multi-cart featuring full version of Mario World

[tonev]

Photo of it please?

It is only a board but i am not willing to sell it unfortunately

[MasterDisk]

(Mind showing it both side still?)

[MasterDisk]

I know. I just ask for PCB picture to compare with the other release.

[xIceMan]

Mario World uses MMC4

I always thought it uses mapper 90, a pirate mapper similar to the monster MMC5.

The game DOES use mapper 90. I have no idea why one would say it's MMC4 when it's clearly not. Nor does it run at MMC4.
It's a custom/pirate MMC5 mapper, that's correct.
Also, very hard to reproduce. Haven't seen anyone doing it yet.

[L___E___T]

 



There have been reproductions and a how-to guide by a Russian guy - I wish I could find those links, I never saved them at the time.

[betamaxizhuge]

PM sent

[tonev]

For the last time i am not selling the board of the 90 in 1 stop with the PM's asking me to sell it 

[MasterDisk]

(I just asked for picture to compare with the other release... please...)

[betamaxizhuge]

I manage to locate this cartridge finally, and without meaning to throw anything offensive your way keep your hair on tonev coz when you add your 5 cents to another persons post about owning the item question, it's probably best to make it clear that it's not for sale from the get go, what did you honestly expect was gonna happen?  Of course your gonna get PMd about it, not to worry, I tracked it down anyway and if anyone is interested in buying it the answer is definitely no lol

[MasterDisk]

Grats!

[betamaxizhuge]

I managed to acquire it from an old contact, it seems to me that finding these exclusive rarities like the cartridge we talked about is something many disappointed members on here will really struggle to find.  It's not often these exclusive rarities ever really show up on here, but that's what makes a lot of these so rare, it's  just the simple fact that most avid collectors understand thst many of these rarities are one - offs, and locating some of these rare and unlicensed gamess, is in fact completely impossible in most cases.  Despite the fact these games are pirates and in most cases, unlicensed they are worth a hell of a lot of money because only a few of these exclusive were ever put into production.  But don't be fooled, there are a lot of mass-produced glob-top cartridges replicating some of these rare titles, and eBay sellers will happily mark them as being "rare" when in actual fact they are mass produced and more importantly they are just COPIES.  The microprocessors used in these cartridges are cheap and nasty and will be very lucky if it lasts you upto a year at most.  They are worth absolutely nothing, so be very careful how you go about acquiring your collection.  Only go for the old originals, as these are well built utilising high quality microchips that will last you a very long time, but don't be expecting the game to look relatively new, a genuine classic pirated cartridge will more than likely look rather dirty and scruffy, but this in no way is a bad thing, all it basically means is that you have the genuine original, and these cartridges are very well built and the casing housing the microchips is very solid in design and owning the original is a must for any serious collector and gaming enthusiast.

[prince tomato]

I managed to acquire it from an old contact, it seems to me that finding these exclusive rarities like the cartridge we talked about is something many disappointed members on here will really struggle to find.  It's not often these exclusive rarities ever really show up on here, but that's what makes a lot of these so rare, it's  just the simple fact that most avid collectors understand thst many of these rarities are one - offs, and locating some of these rare and unlicensed gamess, is in fact completely impossible in most cases.  Despite the fact these games are pirates and in most cases, unlicensed they are worth a hell of a lot of money because only a few of these exclusive were ever put into production.  But don't be fooled, there are a lot of mass-produced glob-top cartridges replicating some of these rare titles, and eBay sellers will happily mark them as being "rare" when in actual fact they are mass produced and more importantly they are just COPIES.  The microprocessors used in these cartridges are cheap and nasty and will be very lucky if it lasts you upto a year at most.  They are worth absolutely nothing, so be very careful how you go about acquiring your collection.  Only go for the old originals, as these are well built utilising high quality microchips that will last you a very long time, but don't be expecting the game to look relatively new, a genuine classic pirated cartridge will more than likely look rather dirty and scruffy, but this in no way is a bad thing, all it basically means is that you have the genuine original, and these cartridges are very well built and the casing housing the microchips is very solid in design and owning the original is a must for any serious collector and gaming enthusiast.

true, but unfortunately some later games (Toy Story, Final Fight 3, King of Fighters '96) were only released on globtop carts, at least, as far as i know.
so in those cases there is sadly no alternative for the globtop carts.
which is a shame, because i have already have seen some cray rare games die (Toy Story) and it is incredibly frustrating to hold a game like that in your hands, its life slipping through your helpless fingers, knowing you will not likely find another copy in your lifetime, while the PCB looks brand new!
those are very sad moments indeed...
to be honest, i would pay good money for durable back-ups of my rarest games, but with the complicated custom mapper issues, and the lack of interest in the mainstream gaming community, boards for these mappers are not likely to materialize any time soon.

a propos: does anyone know if globtops are actually specifically meant to be played on clone consoles?
because most cheap clones will only put about 3.3 volts on the cartridge, whereas original hardware will use 5 volts.
could that be a factor that shortens  the globtop's lifespan?
if so, i'd like to hear more from anyone tech savvy enough to confirm or debunk this.

[MasterDisk]

true, but unfortunately some later games (Toy Story, Final Fight 3, King of Fighters '96) were only released on globtop carts, at least, as far as i know.
so in those cases there is sadly no alternative for the globtop carts.

Correct, in fact most Taiwanese originals from 1994 onwards were released on globs, so that takes all NT, JY, Hosenkan originals

a propos: does anyone know if globtops are actually specifically meant to be played on clone consoles?
because most cheap clones will only put about 3.3 volts on the cartridge, whereas original hardware will use 5 volts.
could that be a factor that shortens  the globtop's lifespan?
if so, i'd like to hear more from anyone tech savvy enough to confirm or debunk this.

This is an interesting question! Also interested by a possible answer.
What I have noticed over time is that globs can get fairly hot and that's not good (thin wires unsoldering because of the heath, those can't be repaired). That's why I wouldn't recommend playing some of them for hours for that reason.

[prince tomato]

so, maybe i will start a thread in the tech section about this,
(instead of hijacking this thread, sorry  )
because, from a preservation point of view this might be an important thing to figure out once and for all.

[famifan]

because most cheap clones will only put about 3.3 volts on the cartridge, whereas original hardware will use 5 volts.
could that be a factor that shortens  the globtop's lifespan?
if so, i'd like to hear more from anyone tech savvy enough to confirm or debunk this.

3.3V chips on pirates from 90s? really?  even PC has 5V EEPROM iirc 28x-series.

newer stuff is probably made of 3.3V logic, however those chips could tolerate 5V I/O to some extent. it's definitely above the absolute maximum rating specs but unlikely to bring any harm even after several hundreds hours of operation. Of course, 3.3V chip should be powered within the specs which is 3.3V. I/O is a different thing.

i still have SMD flash cart which i got roughly an year before i had registered over there. It is built from 3.3V logic without voltage converter for I/O part. Several dozens copies of it were sold. Nobody returned it back due to 3.3V chip failures.

therefore, i'm perfectly sure that old good stuff from 90s isn't affected by 3.3V chip issue.

but your concern is right but slightly out of the context.