Chinese Original Zelda Phantom Hourglass Famicom

Started by thumper, November 28, 2009, 03:25:28 am

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thumper

I never knew all dialects share the same grammar. Then again I haven't studied much Chinese myself, but I've heard from people studying Chinese that they occasionally find the writing styles in Taiwanese pirates to be foreign to a Mandarin learner.
Surprising that Cantonese has such small practicality to me. I grew up in an area where there were many Cantonese speakers, but I guess that was one of those small niches. I never thought about how minimally spread the population is just because I assumed it to be the main original language traditional Chinese comes from, thus the language that would perhaps be considered the most culturally significant. Any ideas on that? Looks like Mandarin somehow dominated it though. I don't know about the evolution of Chinese so I'm curious how Mandarin became the most widespread dialect.

And yea this thread is officially high-jacked. I think I can forget ever selling this blasted game. Nobody wants it. The people have spoken. It's gone.  :P

sumguy

just pop it on ebay for a high BIN price like that other zelda thats been on there forever.  I'm quite curious what one of these would sell for on the open market.  Then again, if the right people don't see it, it won't go for much.

I don't know where Mandarin originated from.  I lived in Heilongjiang province where they're supposed to have the most standard Mandarin accent, but it really didn't sound clear to me at all.  Plus its mixed with Dongbeihua, the real local dialect.  For me, its much easier to understand Taiwanese speaking Mandarin for some reason.

Bramsworth

Taiwanese speaking Mandarin seems too tough. Shi sounds like Si, Chi is Ci, etc...you get the idea. Very tough. I started out learning Mandarin through watching a Taiwanese TV show though, Zong Yi Da Ge Da. One of those boring variety shows over there  :P

I wasn't aware there's a Zelda on eBay with a BIN. A pirate game also? In any case, is you go with eBay I would definitely stick with a BIN if you know what you want. Otherwise you'll make a very cheap sale like I did and end up losing a bit ORZ

Edit: Found the auction. Adol from Assembler. Gee, he uses all screenshots that Trenton took, and Trenton sold that game on Assembler. No chance he by chance jacked the price up much more than he paid after he bought it did he? -_-

Trenton_net

December 21, 2009, 07:31:18 am #48 Last Edit: December 21, 2009, 07:40:20 am by Trenton_net
Yep, thats my stuff (http://cgi.ebay.com/ZELDA-3-III-NINTENDO-NES-FAMICOM-CHINESE-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ220528341215QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Games?hash=item33588370df). Some of those screenshots are ripped from me as well.

I suppose if anyone wants to make easy money you could simply undercut those prices and purchase more stock from me (of which I still have a healthy supply). Kind of like the Price is Right and you bid $1, or $301. Really the only reason prices are artificially that high is because no one knows it’s for sale cheaper. But if you sold it at a smaller premium on eBay you’d pretty much snap up the rest of the market outside of the forums.


Trenton_net

<Shrugs> I don't really mind. It would have been better etiquette to ask permission before using my images. I guess watermarks do have a reason! :-)

thumper

That really disturbs me seeing people steal images and sell things they had just bought off someone else. That's one reason I'm reluctant on being too low on price since I don't want the same thing happening to me.
eBay is out of the question for me. Sure I could try my luck with a BIN price, but chances are it wouldn't sell I'm pretty sure, and I don't want to waste money putting up something. I remember back in my day eBay was free to list on!! *waves fist down the e-road*

Trenton_net

Meh, since my cousin and I are basicly ground zero for these kinds of items, we really don't get effected too much. No matter how much they try to over or under cut, we always can do better. It's really more the people close to the bottom of the food chain that suffer the most.

Speaking of which, it looks like some people are emailing me saying they think they purchased Zelda from me off eBay. Too bad they paid$ $79 dollars for a $39 or $19 dollar game. (^_^);

Trenton_net

I doubt it. Listings that end are usually still viewable. Probably another seller flagged it as pirate or some previous customer found out how much it's really sold for and did it for spite.

Bramsworth

That's kinda funny haha.

I can assure anyone here I didn't flag it or anything. Didn't even cross my mind, now I'm wondering why it didn't though  8)

retroillucid

Before I joined this forum, I've buy a Zelda 3 from him at 80$ ... Doh!
Man. wish I've joined this forum before....    :-\

Anyway, lesson learned!  ;)

Stan

Yeah sorry for steering this thread away!  I've decided not to purchase it anyway, the gameplay sounds a little too shaky to me, though it would be cool with the Chinese.  Yeah, there are very few grammatical differences in writing.  Some, but not many.  Most of it comes out mainly in organization and different words.  Man, I can read traditional and all, and I understand the aesthetics of it, but seriously.  Let's compare what I said there.  Here we go:

什么 or 什麼

Seriously, look at the second example.  The 'me' (second character) is just so ridiculous for something so simple in terms of meaning.  It's a common construction too, so having to write that bullshite on the right woud get on my nerves.  Look at that stupid thing.  Also, as you can see, when typing it, it starts to get annoying to read traditional.  I must say though, it can be useful, but most Chinese are saying screw it.  In addition, I've found that through simplified I can read traditional just fine, whereas with traditional it's difficult usually to go the other way.  So it has that going for it, as evidenced by some of you who said you can't read it but you can read traditional.  Also, I have to say, other than character memorization, Chinese is the most bitch-ass easy language I've come across.  I've done Russian for years and Chiense is just pathetic in most areas. There's hardly any grammar, no tense, no declension, no conjugation.  It's a dream.

Bramsworth

There's so much in Chinese that's hard to understand that makes me barely think of it as a dream. News articles for example, it doesn't feel like the normal language but rather suddenly it turns into something much more complex, a lot of things that could be expressed with a 2 character word in normal conversation suddenly turns into one lone character. That stuff drives me nuts, and I can't imagine catching it in speech :p

I still prefer traditional as opposed to simplified. It's not because it seems easier or anything, and anything I know in traditional I recognize in simplified just the same. I just prefer traditional cuz it looks better to me, that's all. Actually, I don't think anyone here has said they can't read simplified, I mean, with learning Chinese these days you're likely to be able to read both a lot of the time regardless since I'm sure you'd come across times where you'd end up reading traditional somewhere, maybe as subs to a TV show or something.

It probably would be best to also clear up that when we say Chinese I assume we mean Mandarin? Stupid habit that's impossible to break, I gotta remind myself to stop it before I just help spread the belief that Chinese is just one language lol