Does anyone have this Multicart pirate and can tell me what games are on it?

Started by AndrewSi, February 11, 2011, 06:35:28 pm

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AndrewSi

Just wondering if anyone else can tell me what games are on this 64 in1 cart. The only games I know it has is 1942 and tetris. Don't have an AC adaptor for my famicom so no way of testing.

Thanks in advance!




ericj


AndrewSi

Cool, been wanting to play some goonies lol. Are those last ones repeats/duplicates?  ;D

ericj

I really don't remember if they're just dupes or not, but I think they are. It's been awhile since I played it.  :gamer:

Xious

They're mostly minor hacks: For the better part, they allow rapid-fire or other small improvements. '1989 Galaxian' is the best of the lot as you don't need to wait for your missile to clear the screen before shooting again, and it increases the pace of the game. 1989 Pooyan' is the same, although the original 'Pooyan' doesn't really need rapid-fire...  Normally, the 64-in-1 carts have a hack of SMB with incorrect mirroring, a.k.a.. 'Dream Mario', whereas this one says 'Fast Mario'. This may indicate a speed hack as well, or it may simply be a silly name slapped onto the same package; this is also typical.

Note that 'Super Mario II' is nothing of the sort: It's plain-old Super Mario Bros.' with a SMB2 tile-hack/sprite-hack (so the ground is pebbles and the clouds and mushrooms have faces) and a blank title screen. The 'Tetris' is the Tengen version, usually with a modified title screen. Many games have a blank or altered title screen, and are usually just missing their logo and copyright date, which is common practice for some bizarre reason for pirates and multicarts. I suppose pirating the game data is fine in China as long as you remove the original copyright notice before you do it.    :pow: :question: :pow:

In strict menu-numbered order, the actual names of the games are:


1 'Adventure Island'                                                  2 'Gradius'
3 'Star Soldier'                                                         4 'The Goonies' (The original; Kinami)
5 'Legend of Kage'                                                    6 'Tetris' (Tengen Version)
7 'Super Mario Bros.' (with graphics hack)                  8 'Twinbee' (Konami)
9 'Ninja-kun: Majou no Bouken' (Jaleco)                     10 'City Connection'
11 'Battle Wings'                                                      12 1942 (Capcom)
13 Can't remember; Not 'Spartan-X', as I recall            14 'Bomberman'
15 'Front Line' (yuck-o!)                                             16 'Lunar Pool'
17 'Golf' (Nintendo)                                                    18 'Baseball' (Nintendo)
19 'Pinball' (Nintendo)                                                20 'Gomokunarabe' (Nintendo)
21 'Lode Runner' (Hudson)                                         22 'Lode Runner' (Hack)
23 'Mahjong' (Nintendo; possibly hacked)                    24 'Mahjong' (Hack of the Nintendo release, IIRC)
25 'Nuts & Milk'                                                        26 'Choujikuu Yousai Macross'
27 'Star Force'                                                          28 'Spartan-X' (a.k.a. 'Kung-Fu')
29 'Ninja Kun - Ahsua no Shou'? (Jaleco)                    30 'Mario Bros.'
31 'Donkey Kong'                                                      32 'Donkey Kong Jr.'
33 'Donkey Kong 3'                                                   34 'Mappy' (Namcot)
35 'Excitebike' (Nintendo)                                          36 'F-1 Race' (Nintendo)
37 'Road Fighter' (Like 'Spy Hunter')                            38 'Popeye' (Nintendo)
39 'Galaga' (Namcot)                                                 40 'Pac-Man' (Namcot)
41 'Galaxian' (Namcot)                                               42 'Ice Climber' (Nintendo)
43 'Exerion' (Speed hack)                                           44 'Pro-Wrestling' (Nintendo)
45 'Battle City' (Tank-combat game)                            46 'Sky Destroyer'
47 'Ballon Fight' (Nintendo; somewhat like 'Joust')         48 'Formation Z'
49 ' Pooyan' (A later Arcade-port for the system)           50 'Circus Charlie'
51 'Karateka' (I think)                                                  52 'Super Arabian' (Sunsoft)
53 'Antarctic Adventure' (Konami)                                54 'Galaxian' (with turbo-fire hack)
55 'Pac-Man' (hack; not the real 'Super Pac-Man')         56 ?Can't remember; probably a hack of 'Battle City'.
57 ?Can't remember; see No.56'.                                 58 'Star Force' (with rapid-fire hack)
59 'Donkey Kong 3' (with rapid-fire hack)                      60 'Bomberman' (hacked)
61 'Pooyan' (with rapid-fire hack)                                  62 'Gradius' (hacked; probabl rapid-fire)
63 'Star Soldier' (hack)                                                64 'Super Mario Bros. (hack; possibly with
                                                                                       incorrect mirroring, or possibly speed)

No.9 and No.29 are both 'Ninja-Kun' games, but I may have them transposed, or one may be a hack and they could both be one of the two above-mentioned titles with slight differences; No.51 may be misnamed in the menu, but it wouldn't matter. No.13 may be ''Hokuto no Ken'': If 'Spartan' is in fact 'Spartan-X', then 'Kung-Fu' is 'Hokuto no Ken', as I recall it being one of the crap-games thrown into the mix. I can't remember what 'Tank 1 & 2' are, but my logic says they are hacks of 'Battle City', which is a good game if you know how to play it.  :bomb:

nintendodork

Quote from: Xious on February 11, 2011, 08:53:00 pm
...whereas this one says 'Fast Mario'. This may indicate a speed hack as well, or it may simply be a silly name slapped onto the same package; this is also typical.
JC and I confirmed awhile back that on a cartirdge, this didn't have any apparent changes from the original SMB.  I used to have a Famicom disk that had the original Super Mario Bros. on it, but Mario (and only Mario, not the timer or the enemies) ran faster, and we dubbed that as "Fast Mario" as well.
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AndrewSi

Wow, thanks ericj for the screen shots and Xious for all the info! Seems like a decent cart to hold me over for a little while  :blinky:.

Xious

Quote from: nintendodork on February 11, 2011, 09:09:29 pm
Quote from: Xious on February 11, 2011, 08:53:00 pm
...whereas this one says 'Fast Mario'. This may indicate a speed hack as well, or it may simply be a silly name slapped onto the same package; this is also typical.
JC and I confirmed awhile back that on a cartirdge, this didn't have any apparent changes from the original SMB.  I used to have a Famicom disk that had the original Super Mario Bros. on it, but Mario (and only Mario, not the timer or the enemies) ran faster, and we dubbed that as "Fast Mario" as well.


Hmm? Do you mean that you had this as a standalone game, or that you compared the version on this multicart to the PRG data on a normal SMB cart?  :question: As I recall, the hack is a patch applied during loading, and shares the same PRG andd CHR data in ROM as the standard game on the same cart. The only difference would be the state of some memory data, so I'm not sure exactly what you did. As this applies directly to $4016 input, it should be easy to trace; not really that important though, as unless the speed is faster than normal (e.g. holding the 'A' button) there's not much going on.

if you want a god base to compare, do a dump of the FC memory in an emulator, and compare it to a dump of the normal game (from the same multicart): That's where you should see a difference.

Was the disk an actual Nintendo-encoded copy, or a pirate?

In any case, I don't know if I have a dump of this particular version. Mine has the 'Dream Mario' variant on it, so unless I have a random dump of it somewhere, I wouldn't be able to run any tests to confim how or why it behaves the way that it seemingly does. This really doesn't seem to be a fun idea though: Mario always running is simply nonsensical, even if you spend a lot of the game doing it. If you want a truly faster game, try a PAL version.  :mario:

Anyhow, I would consider this to be the quintessential multicart, along with the sightly varied 52-in-1 and 64-in-1 versions: Simply put, having 'SMB', 'Tetris, 'Twinbee', the pulseline games 'The Goonies', the Namcot titles and 'Pooyan' in one place is fantastic. Everything else is mere fluff...well, I suppose the Ninja-kun games are alright for a diversion too. :bomb:

nintendodork

It was it's own game on a pirated disk. One side had this, and the other side had an unmodified version of Super Mario Bros 2 J.  It wasn't on an official Nintendo disk (or at least I wouldn't think so), because the bottom of the disk just had two rectangular holes where "NINTENDO" should be.  I made a video about it a couple years back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jol2-Nm3a7M
I like to glitch old VHS tapes and turn them into visuals for live music events. Check out what I'm working on - www.instagram.com/tylerisneat