(UPDATE) Would this be good for my retro consoles?

Started by ulera, August 31, 2012, 09:15:59 pm

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ulera

August 31, 2012, 09:15:59 pm Last Edit: September 20, 2012, 01:43:00 pm by ulera
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SILICON-IMAGE-DVDO-iSCAN-PRO-PROGRESSIVE-SCAN-LINE-DOUBLER-480P-OUTPUT-/271040621562?pt=US_Audio_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3f1b47abfa

From what I understand... I could use this to turn my 240p consoles into 480p and connect it to my Vizios VGA port so they don't look so terrible in high definition. Am I right?

ericj

Yep, you'd essentially be line-doubling to produce 480P via RGB/Component output with that. The DVDO iScan units work pretty well from what I've read.

http://www.biggerhammer.net/mediaroom/dvdo/dvdo_iscan_pro_SiI-UG-0025-B.pdf

ulera

One last question... it says RGB output but that looks like a VGA port. Is it the same thing?

ericj

You'll need to buy a separate output cable. Have a look at the manual I linked.

ulera

Looks like I have a choice between VGA or VGA to component cables... of course... with only $40 left in my fun money budget now it comes down to deciding whether to go to the flea market tomorrow or not lol.

ericj

There's a choice of 3 cables: VGA-VGA, VGA-RGB, and VGA-Component. Make sure you get the right one.

ulera

My TV has RCA, VGA, Component, DVI and HDMI inputs so RGB isn't an option. :(

ericj

A VGA-VGA cable would be your best bet then.

ulera

Why's that? Since the resolution is 480p why would the type of input make a difference?

ericj

I believe VGA is naturally RGB so no color space conversion needs to take place in the scaler like it would if you converted it to component, so since your TV accepts VGA then it's a better (cleaner) signal from the unit. Someone will correct me if I'm off base.

ulera

So I actually went with this model (Saw it was ending in a half hour and bought on impulse): http://www.ebay.com/itm/290769404373?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

It has RGB BNC output though. Now my TV has neither RGB input or BNC input so I'm going to need to get either a BNC to VGA adapter or BNC to componant adapter. Anybody here have any opionions?

ericj

You'll also need something to convert RGB to YPrPb (component) if your TV doesn't accept RGB signals. A BNC to RCA cable isn't too expensive.

ulera

September 08, 2012, 04:39:31 pm #12 Last Edit: September 08, 2012, 06:23:13 pm by ulera
Rather then buying a converter... would it be cheaper and plausible just to use some bnc to rca adapters connected to one of those cheap rca to scart adapters off of ebay connected to a scart to vga adapter to my tv.

Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't that all the same kind of rgb?

Post Merge: September 08, 2012, 06:23:13 pm

EDIT: Actually this cable would be perfect! I just need to find one that isn't $25

http://store.cableorganizer.com/hd-db-15-m-to-5-bnc-vga-cable-6-foot_NQP-NCC-9106?gclid=CK7And-qp7ICFURgTAodjW4ASw

shybry

Monoprice sells a cheaper BNC<->VGA cable, and cheap BNC<->RCA adaptors. It looks like you'd want the latter to connect composite or component signals to your line doubler inputs.

One big difference between different "kinds" of RGB is the sync signal: VGA has separate horizontal and vertical sync signals (so it's sometimes called RGBHV), but SCART usually uses composite video as sync.

ulera

So this arrived today and I tested it with my Gamecube and my SNES.

In both cases, it KIND OF worked on the gamecube startup screen but it was very fuzzy, as soon as the game started though the picture degenerated into white noise.

Tested the SNES with Pipe dream and the logo and credits displayed although they were also fuzzy and the screen rippled. Not to mention everything was too dark.

I actually managed to get a displayable picture with Mario Party through jiggling the cables and constant restart but it was VERY fuzzy and black and white.

So what do you think is the problem here? The DVP, the BNC to VGA cable or my TV? (Note, when nothing is hooked into the DVP it displays a plain blue screen just fine.)