Famicom Problem

Started by JohnnyBlaze, September 01, 2012, 04:22:18 pm

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JohnnyBlaze

September 07, 2012, 07:53:30 am #60 Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 07:59:29 am by JohnnyBlaze
It's a scam, right? That's why ulera got back to me and I agreed to accept your offer. I'm a man of MY word too. I'm just using what it costs to send the adapter to ulera and return you the rest. I never wanted your money, just the working adapter. How am I a scammer? I even TOLD them from the start that all I wanted was either the money to ship it back or him to agree to send another one. It's sad that another member had to step up to do what you should have done in the first place, but whatever. I accepted your offer, I have the email to prove it, now I want to hear from you.
Famicom Disk System: The More You Play It, the More You'll Want to Play

80sFREAK

I just checked USPS. they have international first class package. 1 pound is $11.60, you still stays on your $30-40 shipping cost? And i still have opened claim. And paypal hold money, and reversed some other transactions, which means my lost on other their fees. Who cares, right? Right.

Post Merge: September 07, 2012, 08:05:49 am

Yup, just checked account. case closed for now. we can move to the next step.
I don't buy, sell or trade at moment.
But my question is how hackers at that time were able to hack those games?(c)krzy

JohnnyBlaze

Last response as the matter is supposed to be settled.

They did NOT have that listed when I checked the site. It was either International Priority or Express. The rate was for Priority. If that cart wasn't t-shaped, it could've fit into a $16 Priority box. I PACK my stuff when I send it, return or whatever.

As to everyone who told me how much of a great person he is, just because you think you know somebody, doesn't mean you know them. It could be just one thing that went wrong, but as I stated earlier, it was his refusal to look into it, take responsibility when he saw I was right about the ordeal, and overall attitude toward me that sparked this.

If he would've just looked into it in the beginning like I asked him to do, and send a replacement RAM adapter, NONE of this would've happened.

Then he tries to paint me as a scammer. It's a shame that some of you would actually believe that when I said from the BEGINNING what I wanted. As far as I'm concerned, it's done and I want to thank ulera for stepping up when he really didn't have to. He's got more heart than you know to do something like that.

For those that took my side, thank you. For those that didn't or were quick to label me a scammer, I just hope now you realize what happens when you assume. You make an "ass" out of "u" and "me".
Famicom Disk System: The More You Play It, the More You'll Want to Play

80sFREAK

It will be settled completely, when i successfully withdraw money somewhere and shutdown paypal account.
I don't buy, sell or trade at moment.
But my question is how hackers at that time were able to hack those games?(c)krzy

80sFREAK

Some new info coming on this case :)

Post Merge: September 14, 2012, 01:48:52 am

Quote from: 80sFREAK on September 01, 2012, 04:24:45 pm
Are you sure, that your TV is ok?
This.
I don't buy, sell or trade at moment.
But my question is how hackers at that time were able to hack those games?(c)krzy

ulera

Well... as far as the goes. The exchange has been made, so far Blaze's adapter has been working without any graphical glitches on my normal set up. (22" panasonic CRT) and the flatscreen I keep in my room (42" Vizio LCD).

He's been reporting the same glitch-free-ness using my adapter on his setup. So I'm not sure where the problems were originating.

JohnnyBlaze

The RAM Adapter from ulera came today and I repeated the same steps I have with the other. The old one worked glitch free maybe once out of say 30-40 times. This one, I tried out all my disks, turned off and loaded it again a few times for them all. Even played a few levels in Castlevania, Doki Doki Panic, and a few matches in Pro Wrestling....NO GLITCHES! Now, I just played it today so, there's still more testing(I only spent an hour or so playing with the Famicom.

Here's a shot in the dark and I mentioned this to ulera:

Considering there were two main revisions of the Disk System hardware(one with anti piracy measures and one without), do you think that maybe the RAM adapters are different too to match? For example, using a RAM adapter meant for the second revision on the first will cause problems and the first revision will work on either?

Considering 80sFREAK said not too long ago that there were two kinds of CHR RAM used in different adapters he looked at, is this a possibility?

Now that everything is settled and everything's working, I want to try and find out what's causing it just as much as you guys. I'm up to volunteer some theories and run testing if need be.

Here were other games I had issues with before I sent to ulera:

Full List:

Super Mario Bros 2(Mario's leg a block and later glitching)
Pro Wrestling(wrestlers upper body is missing and other glitches with crowd and left ropes)
Castlevania(random graphical glitches, most notable on opening screen when scene plays of player entering castle)
Moero Twinbee(random graphical glitches, most notable on side scrolling stages)
Falsion(random graphical glitches, Normal play only tested)
Doki Doki Panic(random graphical glitches)
Othello(graphical glitches on the computer's timer; brand new disk)

Hopefully, this new info will help.

Famicom Disk System: The More You Play It, the More You'll Want to Play

fredJ

I wonder if you cleaned it properly.
I have glitches in games when the RAM adapter isn't cleaned. It needs to be cleaned just like you would clean a cart. If you don't clean a cart, the glitch gremlin may appear in the way you described.
Selling  Japanese games in Sweden since 2011 (as "japanspel").
blog: http://japanspel.blogspot.com

ulera

I'm using the same ram adapter he was though, haven't cleaned it and I'm not having problems.

ericj

There are more revisions that just the 3206 vs 7201 chip. There are 5 (IIRC) power board variants, too.

80sFREAK

September 14, 2012, 05:03:31 pm #70 Last Edit: September 16, 2012, 08:45:17 pm by 80sFREAK
Quote from: ericj on September 14, 2012, 03:58:47 pm
There are more revisions that just the 3206 vs 7201 chip. There are 5 (IIRC) power board variants, too.
No, no, that's about CHR RAM chip. So far i found two different chips has been used in most revisions of RAM adaptor. One(and only) that i found had Sony 150ns, but seems to be it's a critical timing - jpx72 responded about some graphic glitches in repros, where 150ns CHR RAM has been used.
I don't buy, sell or trade at moment.
But my question is how hackers at that time were able to hack those games?(c)krzy

ericj

Interesting. As an aside, I've written disks with a RAM adapter that does the same thing but the disks work perfectly fine on my Twin FC and other FDS with a different RAM adapter.

80sFREAK

Quote from: ericj on September 14, 2012, 05:19:20 pm
Interesting. As an aside, I've written disks with a RAM adapter that does the same thing but the disks work perfectly fine on my Twin FC and other FDS with a different RAM adapter.
Red box and adaptor 100% interchangable.  Also there never was issue with lodaing disks(err.22 err.27). Couple minutes ago ulera responded, that RAM adaptor has exactly same CHR RAM chip made by Sony, as i found. Waiting for another respond to check one more guess.

added not exactly sure, but room temperature might affect, if chip is at the limit. Need more statistic info.
I don't buy, sell or trade at moment.
But my question is how hackers at that time were able to hack those games?(c)krzy

ericj

I was referring to graphical glitches. Since the disk image is loaded to the RAM adapter prior to being written to the disk, I thought maybe the resulting written disk may show glitches.

80sFREAK

Nope, thre is CRC check before execute the code. Theoretically it's possible to corrupt data and keep CRC ok, but if different games showing similar graphic issue, that's not an issue.

I still keep desoldered CHR RAM chip, maybe i should try to solder it in random adaptor to check on both CRT and LCD TV's.

Flickering graphics also might be result of multicolor or some animation tricks, when watched on non-CRT TV.

At moment i can say, that same Sony made chips widely used in Nintendo products - tons of cartriges has same chip as CHR RAM or WRAM.

Yesterday i checked some donors, i have to recheck it again, but i think i had flickering bottom line(tested with LCD TV, CRT would not show that part of the screen anyway) during scrolling on Dragon Quest III.
I don't buy, sell or trade at moment.
But my question is how hackers at that time were able to hack those games?(c)krzy