Super Mario Bros. 2 (Japan)

[Doc]

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[Doc]

Anyone agree that this is a good game? I can tell why it was not sent to the states, but I still think it should've gotten a fairer chance...

[vealchop]

That game can get insanely hard! I guess it was a little redundant for American audiences.

[michaelthegreat]

I've always thought that it didn't make it because it feels more like a B sides than a true sequal.  Sometimes we get jacked over here in the US, but sometimes we only get the best.  You can make arguments over it not being a mario game and all sorts of crap, but I honestly think that SMB2 USA is better than SMB2 J.  I think it would not have sold as well, and that it also would have been a letdown to a lot of people.  To each their own, but I think Nintendo made the right move. 

[Doc]

I do agree with your points somewhat (it's SMB with updated graphics for the sky and a poison mushroom.), but saying Super Mario USA was better? I don't know, I'd have to disagree with that. Super Mario USA is Doki Doki Panic with running and Clawgrip...

[michaelthegreat]

Yeah, but SMB 2J is a SMB1 level hack...   

[Doc]

Yeah, but SMB 2J is a SMB1 level hack...   

Hmm...good point.

[JC]

Very good point. It's just like SMB USA. Whoever was working on the Mario games was fucking lazy. That's not to say SMB2j didn't make some improvements on the original -- spicing it up a bit and making it harder.

[Doc]

Question, has anyone ever FULLY completed the game? I mean, with the extra A, B, and C worlds...

[Doc]

Yeah, I've been working on it aswell. Hard as hell!

[michaelthegreat]

Well, hey, it's only been in the last two years that I beat SMB1 without warps...

[Doc]

Well, hey, it's only been in the last two years that I beat SMB1 without warps...

Ouch.

[JC]

Hey, no teasing, Michael. I still haven't beat SMB1 without warps -- I've never had a long enough attention span to try. So I can't imagine I'd ever get anywhere close to beating SMB2j.

[madman]

This game is a right bastard!  It seems the enemies are always in just the perfect place to get you.  But, I'm happy to be playing the original version finally, I've only played the SNES one prior.

[Jedi Master Baiter]

I'm glad to be done with all this hell. And today I just beat Star Fox, tis a good week for gaming, for me.