NES overclock

Started by alimadhi, July 22, 2013, 03:01:02 am

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alimadhi

July 22, 2013, 03:01:02 am Last Edit: July 24, 2013, 02:36:43 am by alimadhi
hi guys

what is best Oscillator use for NES ?
My NES PAL-MTL
btw i mod my nes to 24.000000MHz Oscillator  but still slow with Aladdin (E) and my Everdrive N8 not work.

thank you

Post Merge: July 22, 2013, 08:23:53 pm

please guys help me  :'(

Post Merge: July 24, 2013, 02:36:43 am

:'(

P

Oh you have a Mattel NES? Is Aladdin slow even without modding?
It might be easier and better to have an NTSC system for NTSC games (like a Famicom non-clone) and only play PAL games on you PAL NES.

nerdynebraskan

Aladdin doesn't even work on a faster NTSC NES. I've got a copy, and it always crashes right after the opening cinematics. And a US NES only runs about 15% faster than a PAL one. I don't think overclocking is going to help you with that game.
Can Nintendo Age Beat Every NES Game in 2015?

http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=140551

alimadhi

thank you guys for reply

Ok about Aladdin

My NES Console PAL-MTL and I play some games are slow not as slow in the Family Game and same consoles PAL Ver.  NES  & Family, i mod my NES with (Oscillator 24.000000MHz) for get high Frequency but still slow and  Everdrive N8 doesn't work and all the games going slow and slower
what should i do, and correct me if i right going to solve the problem with Frequency and what is good Oscillator xx.xxMHZ use for NES ?
i just want my NES play games like Family Game.

P

Sorry I don't know what oscillator you could use. But since your official NES is running slower than your Famiclone (Family Game), are you sure it's not your Family Game that runs the game too fast?

Are your NES able to load games at all with the Everdrive N8? If you get a blinking LED then it means you have the wrong region setting on the lockout chip. PAL-MTL is Region-A. You should check if Everdrive N8's lockout chip is compatible with Region-A, and if it is, check how to change region setting to Region-A.

alimadhi

Quote from: P on July 25, 2013, 02:48:21 am
are you sure it's not your Family Game that runs the game too fast?

i'm sure my famicon fine and play games normally

Quote from: P on July 25, 2013, 02:48:21 am
Are your NES able to load games at all with the Everdrive N8? If you get a blinking LED then it means you have the wrong region setting on the lockout chip. PAL-MTL is Region-A. You should check if Everdrive N8's lockout chip is compatible with Region-A, and if it is, check how to change region setting to Region-A.


yes it's load all games i disable lockout chip
and what you mean about (Everdrive N8's lockout chip) ?

Post Merge: July 27, 2013, 10:57:33 am

Quote from: 80sFREAK on July 25, 2013, 04:36:11 am
Hint #1. OP, your PPU 50 or 60Hz?


My friend how i know about my PPU 50 or 60Hz?  ;D  i just know my NES PAL  :-\

nerdynebraskan

A PAL NES's PPU is 50 Hz, unless you've modified it. An NTSC NES or Famicom is 60 Hz.
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alimadhi

ahhhhhhhhhhhaaaa i got it now i see why my Famicom run fast then NES that's mean my Famicom 60Hz and my NES 50Hz

so what is best Oscillator for my NES ?

30Hz, 33Hz, 36Hz or 40Hz ?

alimadhi

i know famicom is best, but i ask is it possible to mod NES PAL to NTSC ?  :-[

80sFREAK

Possible - replace crystall, CPU and PPU with NTSC ones.
I don't buy, sell or trade at moment.
But my question is how hackers at that time were able to hack those games?(c)krzy

alimadhi

how ? please Taught me how to do this and if you can by pictures please  :-[

alimadhi

thank you brother for help
that mean i need to buy PUP, CPU and crystal NTSC   :'(  where i can find them ? i can buy just from amazon.com and i don't know what type or name of those items like PUP :xxxxxxxxxxx ?   CPU:xxxxxxxxxxx ?   crystal :xxxxxxx ?  ???

I'm very good about solder/desolder  ;D

famifan

Quote from: alimadhi on July 29, 2013, 01:28:45 am
thank you brother for help
that mean i need to buy PUP, CPU and crystal NTSC   :'(  where i can find them ? i can buy just from amazon.com and i don't know what type or name of those items like PUP :xxxxxxxxxxx ?   CPU:xxxxxxxxxxx ?   crystal :xxxxxxx ?  ???

I'm very good about solder/desolder  ;D


i think in your case it's even better and safer to buy NTSC NES which's ready for playing out of the box. Or just buy its guts, then apply your good soldering/desoldering skills and play with normal speedo. It depends on how it's harder to get the guts

nerdynebraskan

I'll second Famifan's suggestion: If you want NTSC speed, just buy an NTSC console. You would have to disable the lockout chip in an American toaster to play PAL games, unless you're going to collect only NTSC games for it. But it sounds like that's already common in PAL NES regions, since the European continent got two different PAL systems (the PAL-A: UK and Italy and the PAL-B: most of Europe) and you have to bust the lockout chip to play PAL-A games on a PAL-B console and vice versa anyway.
Can Nintendo Age Beat Every NES Game in 2015?

http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=140551

alimadhi


nice sound i will try to get NTSC console from amazon.com  :(